Most sources of dating advise, uniformly agree that bars and clubs are by far not the best places to meet women. I can't disagree with that. Noise, alcohol, and the stigma that is generally associated with meeting women in bars doesn't really help guys meet women in those nightly establishments.

Having said that, I recognize that the idea of meeting a woman by the bar or at a dance floor is very enticing and exciting to many guys. The problem is that most guys seem to actually reduce their changes of meeitng women by comming three fundamental mistakes that are so easy and so important to avoid:

1. Looking for the busiest bar that has the most people. Most guys who find themselves on a strip full of bars, "window shop" to find the busiest bar to hang out, assuming that just because there are more women in a given place, the chances of meeting a woman at that bar will be higher because it's "packed." However, it is far easier to meet and talk to a girl at a quiter, lower-key lounge where there are fewer people, less noise and hustle and bustle, less distractions and less competition. After all, being able to focus your attention on each other is such a crucial part of approaching and meeting women anywhere, including bars and clubs. Besides, the reality is that the opposite is true. If you developed the skills and the confidence to approach women, you don't need a hundred women around you in order to make a move. Even five attractive women are plenty to consider. And if you don't have the necessary skill, then even being the only guy at a bar is not going to be of much help in meeting women there.

2. Going out late. Somehow we have been taught that the "coolest" people are the last ones to arrive. Perhaps this applies to fashion shows, house parties, etc.., but when it comes to meeting women in bars, you are much better off coming early. You will notice that earlier in the evening, the ratio of guys and women is much more favorable to you. Also, women are sober at the beginning of the night and they are actually likely to remember who they are talking to and what they are saying, so if you approach women early, you will be talking to their real self and not their alcohol mask. As night goes on, women will start leaving and the guys will start arriving, and your chances of meeting a girl will diminish, so take advantage of the earlier time in the evevening to meet women. Some guys would say to this: "Well, if I meet a girl that early in the evening, I will have to talk to her the whole night." No, not at all! Why would you. There is nothing wrong with, and it's ever preferrable, that you don't impose yourself on a woman the entire evening and you don't abandon your friends, but instead - you talk for 20-30 minutes, get her contact information, say "It was nice meeting you, I will talk to you soon" and both of you go back to your group of friends.

3. Going to the same places over and over again. If you have been going to the same two three bars for months or even years without being able to meet women, guess what - it's probably a good idea to consider changing the scene. It might be worth driving for 20-30 minutes outside of your area to find newer places that might be more interesting and more conducive to meeting women. It might be a good idea to stop thinking that some bars are too "trashy" and others are "too upscale" for you and give them a chance. Expand your circle of the establishment you consider to go to at night and it will make your outing much more interesting.